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		<description><![CDATA[Update: New York Time tech writer David Pogue raised the question of Photoshop and Photography: When is it Real? The subject came up when two winners in Popular Photography&#8217;s annual Reader&#8217;s Photos Contest had two winners that clearly were Photoshop compositions. The question is when does manipulation take an image beyond a photograph? Next year [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Update: New York Time tech writer David Pogue raised the question of </strong><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="text-decoration: none;"><strong><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/indexes/2010/02/25/technology/circuitsemail/index.html?8cir&amp;emc=cir" target="_blank">Photoshop and Photography: When is it Real?</a></strong></span></span></span></span><strong> The subject came up when two winners in Popular Photography&#8217;s annual </strong><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="text-decoration: none;"><strong><a href="http://www.popphoto.com/Popular-Photography-s-16th-Annual-Readers-Contest" target="_blank">Reader&#8217;s Photos Contes</a></strong></span></span></span></span><strong><a href="http://www.popphoto.com/Popular-Photography-s-16th-Annual-Readers-Contest" target="_blank">t</a></strong><strong> had two winners that clearly were Photoshop compositions.</strong></p>
<p><strong>The question is when does manipulation take an image beyond a photograph? Next year the magazine handles the issue by having a separate category for Photoshop creations?</strong></p>
<p><strong>What do you think about that and the questions raised by my examples below?</strong></p>
<p>One way that I describe the way I work is that I&#8217;m a documentary photographer that both knows how to find and see great light, and knows how to make it great when its not.</p>
<p>When I doing a commercial job part of the process is going into a real situation and making it look better. If that involves doing a head transplant from one frame to another or cleaning up a distracting background in Photoshop &#8211; that&#8217;s just part of the service that&#8217;s offered.</p>
<p>But what about when I head back out into the streets? What sort of alteration is fair game? Most serious journalistic publications only allow what could be traditionally done in a darkroom. Perhaps there is a vigorous discussion that is raging in the fine arts world about this issue that I&#8217;m not following.</p>
<p>What do you think is fair game from the two examples below and an earlier post about a <a href="http://www.harmelphoto.com/blog/?p=329">Moulin Rouge</a> photo?</p>
<div id="attachment_887" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 630px"><img class="size-full wp-image-887" title="20040319_STK_7271" src="http://www.harmelphoto.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/20040319_STK_7271.jpg" alt="The slightly altered documentary photo." width="620" height="413" /><p class="wp-caption-text"><strong>An altered documentary photo of an Upper Eastside socialite walking her poodle</strong></p></div>
<div id="attachment_910" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 434px"><img class="size-full wp-image-910" title="20040319_STK_7271details" src="http://www.harmelphoto.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/20040319_STK_7271details1.jpg" alt="The grate was behind her foot and the fire sign was removed." width="424" height="225" /><p class="wp-caption-text"><strong>The grate was behind her foot and the sprinkler sign was removed</strong></p></div>
<p>This Upper Eastside photo of a society women taking her poodle out for a walk was only slightly altered. The red sign above the fire-hose plug and the sidewalk grate were removed to cut down on the visual distraction. I personally only have a slight problem with this one. Would it be better if the alterations were indicated similar to what I did with these photos?</p>
<div id="attachment_904" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 630px"><img class="size-full wp-image-904" title="20061111_stk_1445" src="http://www.harmelphoto.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/20061111_stk_14451.jpg" alt="A subway mime preparing for her performance" width="620" height="413" /><p class="wp-caption-text"><strong>A subway mime preparing for her performance</strong></p></div>
<div id="attachment_903" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 630px"><img class="size-full wp-image-903" title="20061111_stk_1444-8" src="http://www.harmelphoto.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/20061111_stk_1444-81.jpg" alt="The source of the blend photos." width="620" height="206" /><p class="wp-caption-text"><strong>One frame has the great reflection in the mirror.....and the other has the reaction of the passengers</strong></p></div>
<p>The subway mime is more of a stretch. Instead of just cleaning up stray distractions this is a blend of two moments where the charm comes from actually being there and capturing the moment. I could say that I indeed captured the moment and the convergence just happened a different times. In my heart I feel its cheating. But is a much better photo as the combination than either one is alone.</p>
<p>What do you think? Where would you draw the line?</p>
<p>Mark Harmel</p>
<p><a title="Los Angeles healthcare photographer" href="http://www.harmelphoto.com" target="_blank">harmelphoto.com</a></p>
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		<title>when is cheating fair-1?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some of my students recently were appalled that I would ever alter any part of a photo. They were beginning students and still very new to working with photos on a computer. Normally I limit myself to cleaning up faces and removing power outlets from the background, but every now and then I allow myself [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of my <a href="http://www.juliadean.com/" target="_blank">students</a> recently were appalled that I would ever alter any part of a photo. They were beginning students and still very new to working with photos on a computer.</p>
<p>Normally I limit myself to cleaning up faces and removing power outlets from the background, but every now and then I allow myself to think more along the lines of a photo illustration.</p>
<p>A few years ago I was renting an apartment in Paris up the hill from the Moulin Rouge and I knew of a photo my travel photographer friend <a href="http://www.glenallison.com/" target="_blank">Glen Allison</a> shot of the famed club through the art nouveau archway of the metro stop.</p>
<div id="attachment_330" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 630px"><img class="size-full wp-image-330" title="pair" src="http://www.harmelphoto.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/pair.jpg" alt="The two elements of the final illustration" width="620" height="212" /><p class="wp-caption-text"><strong>The two elements of the final illustration</strong></p></div>
<p>I didn&#8217;t quite know how to make it different. I was both frustrated that the lights on the archway were out in the evening, and didn&#8217;t like a big Coke billboard that was in the frame. Then I noticed that a famous painting in my <a href="http://travelstore.ricksteves.com/catalog/index.cfm?fuseaction=product&amp;theParentId=13&amp;id=54" target="_blank">tour book</a> and that many of the artists selling their work on the street had moved some famous landmarks around to suit their compositions.</p>
<p>I decided that I could do the same &#8211; it just required me to move the metro stop. I wasn&#8217;t sure I had the compositing skills to do this, but I have friends that can.</p>
<div id="attachment_332" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 630px"><img class="size-full wp-image-332" title="moulinrouge" src="http://www.harmelphoto.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/moulinrouge.jpg" alt="The final composition with everything in the right place" width="620" height="612" /><p class="wp-caption-text"><strong>The final composition with everything in the right place</strong></p></div>
<p>I shot the individual pieces and asked my friend <a href="http://www.dunbardigital.com/" target="_blank">Dennis Dunbar</a> to use his Photoshop skills to help me execute my original vision. This was my first big step into more of a photo-illustration look. I still prefer to capture what is actually in front of the camera, but this experience opened me up to the idea of creating an illustration.</p>
<p>Mark Harmel<br />
<a href="http://www.harmelphoto.com/" target="_blank">harmelphoto.com</a></p>
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